collaroy sea wall protest

It makes perfect sense doesn't it, stop/dissipate the energy before it has the chance to have an impact. The council now will not release the relevant documents without a formal application and even then would no doubt find reasons to withhold the significant parts. Well now we know who is responsible for this debacle. "Environmental vandalism or gross negligence?". Planning Minister Rob Stokes told the Telegraph there was a recent plan to build a sea wall in Collaroy at the scene of the devastation but the owners would not agree on making a contribution, so it never happened. And this is on a small, weak windswell from the south-east. There is no better option. It didn't last long and within 12 hours the sand that was built up against the near finished first wall was 2/3rds washed away. Good balanced post tango. The group aims to raise awareness of the impact that the building sector can have while pointing out that more drastic measures need to be taken, as most countries do not include full building. I think this was done for the first DA, the sloping rock wall, rather than the vertical one that was actually built. It may not happen in my lifetime [fingers-crosssed] but it's a real issue when thinking about your children who eventually inherit your home. Man, that'd get old real quick, happy to pass. Ha! Section 2.4 Item 4 - classic stuff. Would suck if you got amalgamated into Northern Beaches council then had to pay tax for this. Rise seems nearly double than the run. All of Ramsgate, Brighton, Kyeemagh, Dolls Point, Scarborough Park and lots more will be underwater in 50 or 100 years time. At the same time it would put an end to the constant dredging and relocating of sand from Narrabeen (9News) But the structure has divided locals, with many describing it as an eyesore, and there are concerns it may wipe out the beach entirely. The NB has always excelled at extreme ugliness. Building a vertical [with over-top] wall is about as insane a design as you can get, as stated and proven by all the intelligent people on this forum. This will give all all a better insight into what's going on with these projects. If a construction like that ends up being the only realistic option then so be it, but at least they need to be transparent about how they got to that point, and ideally accountable in future if it goes south. Thanks heaps for the update Craig. Whether the NSW state government / local council want to backflip with a pike on their current failing seawall master plan is another thing. We have the tools and imagination to manage the climatic challenge that beginning to show in my lifetime. Spot on tango. We need to get all the data and expert opinions out in the open before decisions are made. https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/peter-horton-coastal-engineer. The market knows this. Rock barrels at its best! A "macabre" scene greeted surfers followinga mass kill of invertebrates. I guess that the levees will give me a 100% guarantee that it'll never happen in my lifetime". It would be a good idea to put in a surf cam in that pans up and down the wall to document any changes to the beach, sand movements, erosion problems etc. check out the beach erosion in Apollo bay as well Should have taken the high road. Nobody there is in a position to offer 2-3 times market value. In 2002, about 3000 people took to the beach to protest a planned sea wall, concerned it could destroy the beach. The contractor is required to remove this temporary working platform and bund at the completion of the works, sieve the sand and remove all debris, and return the beach to its former state.. So says Brendan Donohoe of the conundrum facing Northern Beaches Council in relation to the Collaroy beachfront. Plenty others have discussed it. Would be interesting to know the depth as it goes out to sea as well as that gives options for offshore reefs to dissipate the wave energy, therefor preventing erosion. Has any one ever suggested an off shore reef, seems like a win-win or is the sea floor unsuitable? It would be the same as for any development adjacent to the cables where they make landfall. This is an example of the walls theyve been placing. besides Id rather just shout at my computer. >> and the ocean will wash it all away again in the next big swell. 3) How much has Council spent on legal fees defending Land & Environment Court appeals related to seawalls since the 2016 storm? EDIT: Just to be clear, the issue of erosion has nothing to do with sea level rise, climate change, or buying the latest board. https://www.sydneycoastalcouncils.com.au/sites/default/files/JRCorkill_A(2)_Prop_L_Rev_67-84.pdf, yes, Blindboy, I am guessing they had absolutely no input on the final [or initial] design what-so-ever as they were only used as a consulting service by the Coastal engineers. But it wasn't about the road - it was about appeasing multimillionaires who would have or should have known better. Market value is driven by what people are willing to pay for it. A horizontal reef is also a "Hard Structure" yet it acts in a very different way to a Vertical Sea Wall such as the Collaroy one. That means that the Feds have all the money, the States some and the councils bugger all. I'm a huge tree-hugger but they will not stop powerfull ocean waves. How about dredging narrabeen lagoon?? To add a bit of controversy, I've often wondered: Is Carties borderline just a novelty wave? I dare say the neighbours are on notice too. The area has been slowly receding due to storm damage - theres evidence of erosion dating back to the 1920s - while at the same timebeing intensely researched by coastal geographers. They have just set a precedent for the whole east coast of poor me multi millionaire landowners to set up squeaky wheel collectives. LGA's apply for state and federal funding on offer for range of purposes. Newiie Harbour was pumping. Rd: 7th Oct. 1912: c041070001: 1912: Z/SP/C25/1a: Collaroy Park Estate Narrabeen: No boundaries shown: 7th Oct. 1912: c041070002 [1915] Z/SP/C25/2 [plan of Collaroy] Government Rd, Sea View Pde, Collaroy Ave, Main Pittwater Rd, Jenkins Pde, Beach Rd . A quick Google informs me that they are part of the State government, either Planning or Public Works, which was news to me because its mainly staffed by UNSW academics and is associated with the uni as a research centre. Hi Lost, yes there is another option - see my 2 posts above. Whether concrete castles or sand castles, buildings that close to a sand shoreline must be living on borrowed time. Any example around the world that have worked with out wrecking a beach but holding back erosion in built up areas ? Hey there - well I live in Noosa, Sunshine Beach specifically. More than double in wealth the last 7 years. It's important to also recognise, the wall is entirely on private land. A new wavepool development for the Sunshine Coast points to the future of pools in Australia. She had reigned as Queen for 70 years. Should this critical lens be applied to other topics such as the Coolum wavepool? Some investigative journalism required to obtain all the council documents around its approval process. There's been a lot of work done to gain a better understanding of the value of the beach re both market and non-market economic benefits. Might be time to lawyer up. Avoiding these types of impacts has been part of state coastal management policy around the country for the past 30 years. An awkward situation, but only for one of the parties, as the Woz suspends the current Longboard World Champ. For those who object to it, there is something hostile about Collaroy's multi-million-dollar sea wall. There's no sense at all in building something like this from an engineering perspective. Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. Unfortunately politics and money flow are not associated with longer term planning in Australia at present. Like Stockton, the Collaroy seawall has resulted in the loss of the beach immediately in front of the wall caused by the dissipation of wave energy. Both Donohoe and Gorden were correct, up to a point: The construction began with concrete piles sunk six metres below sea level, protected by a rock toe. Sea level rise equation is based on the Bruun Rule to ascertain erosion in open coastal areas like Collaroy. Those days are gone, but we can make the future even better IF we use our brains like you say! Hi Craig, the short answer is I'm not sure as I have been out of NSW too long. First and foremost they say It's for erosion control but as you've seen after 2011 they did pretty much sfa. I was watching the houses on the cliffs at Bilgola the other day. The sea wall forms a permanent, stationary barrier between the sea and the land. https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/Policy-and-Legislation/Coastal-and-marin "The scheme operates along the entire NSW coastal zone except for the Greater Sydney metropolitan area, identified as between Broken Bay (Central Coast) and the Minnamurra River (south of Shellharbour).". Unlike other approaches like soft beach nourishment, they offer a long term solution to shoreline erosion. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. This issue is not exclusive to the NB or sea level rise or storm surge. Again this can only be taken as opinion without proper scientific references. https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/coastal-properties-at-highest-clima https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-17/will-climate-change-put-an-end-to Kala Grace In Dramatic Rescue While Competing In Backdoor Shootout, 'Corners Of The Earth: Kamchatka' Tour Dates, Watch: Hossegor Super Session January 6th, Australian Designer To Launch Crescent Head Hotel Amid Local Development Concerns, Dead Marine Life Washes Onto South Oz Beaches After Flooding, Watch: Ryan Callinan // Beneath A Pear Tree, Watch: Cronulla's Jarvis Earle Wins World Junior Title. Cheers for the knowledge Craig. The lessons, it would seem, are still being learnt. @dawnperiscope. The project is part of the 1.3-km seawall proposed from South Narrabeen to Collaroy to protect both private and public assets in the suburb. Will be interesting after another summer if potential strong easterlies due to the La Nia. Protesters linking arms on the beach in 2002. Ratepayer/taxpayer bailout, so business as usual whatever happened to caveat emptor? Nature fights back. https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/september-2021/Living-Seawalls-in-g 5 min [P] Call of the Wild skinny dip at yer local Sea-Walljust doing wot comes natural! Joint Venture adopts new name, Te Puna Aonui. As hostile native rescue party moves in for the killOh the Humanityreads Humilityreads Kook! Also, ALL the Numerical modeling was done in comparison to the current altered beach-state and NOT to a natural beach-state so there is bias in modeling things that way even though the beach state is not natural any more. Further to the north, sand that was built up in front of properties has been scoured away leaving an eight foot drop-off. Florida is an example. The Gold Coast has undoubtedly the most at risk coastline in Australia. You would never be allowed to build an incorrectly designed bridge, so why do these people get away with doing that at our beaches ? And since there's been no budget allocated for future buy backs. Kimura (2016) "When a seawall is visible: Infrastructure and obstruction in post-tsunami reconstruction in Japan" Not sure if that happened though. A man whose million-dollar beachfront property on Sydney's northern beaches was damaged by king tides says he and his neighbours are happy to chip in for the construction of a sea wall. The Collaroy Beach seawall project was put to the test for the first time today with the arrival of a moderate to large east-northeast groundswell from ex-Tropical Cyclone Seth, coinciding with a king tide. Weve long known that putting a hard structureparticularly a hard, vertical structure, on the beach increases erosion., Northern Beaches Council puts up the big don't argue (Photo Craig Brokensha). A few pics. The role of the council in all this might come out if people push hard enough. In the early 2000s, Warringah Council (as it was then known, its since been amalgamated with Manly and Pittwater) spent $6 million dollars buying three properties. This also creates problems when people try and keep claiming land as shorelines migrate seaward in times of accretion. There have been high profile storms on the NSW East Coast since the mid-70s. Futile. Who could forget the MOLE building or the spoil from the North Head Sewage Works tipped over the cliff? that concrete is a lovely blank canvas for some choice words. For those who may not know, the private land issue is complicated in NSW in particular (less so in other states) by the existence of ambulatory land boundaries which are set at various levels of the tide eg mean high water. !.Basic, crude, primitive, a fcukn disgrace and no regard for the beauty of the areajust shit!.Year 7 school project standard. Is there a sea wall at Collaroy? Usually done by compulsory acquisition with the government working off existing market prices. High-quality Collaroy Wall Art designed and sold by artists. I think the wall is actually a good warning of exactly what governments mean by "adaptation and mitigation"..expensive projects for the construction industry rather than sound ecological management. nothing that a annual maintenance fee paid for by the taxpayer can't fix. They must only exist on a dense (and expensive) schedule of maintenance, no doubt. An "Engineer/s" designed this monstrosity and other "Engineers" approved it. Looks perfect for high tide backwash to spread up and down the beach. In the Doc below, They advised to do more Numerical modeling [Physics simulations] to be sure of the walls effect. The main issue is that the cables are protected in whatever is proposed. that would be awesome location for JOb or other jackasses to film fun vids. The beach is now too dangerous to walk along and it's one big eyesore. The Palm Beach artificial reef is now completed. It is possible that this is part of the Silverback's Seachange pork barrel rollout. The houses up the dune with no apparent erosion would be an apple compared to these lemons (for now). On the release of his latest edit, R-Cal chats to Swellnet about love and other acrobatics. This process must require wind over thousands of years but people and waves stomping over dunes seems like any dune system near a popular town once destroyed wont come back? https://www.acma.gov.au/zone-protect-sydney-submarine-cables, That makes sense Ben. The thing is, the existing site was fine except a motorway was about to be built straight through it. Tonights high tide is 1.34m, tomorrow morning is 1.96m. The mid-70s sure of the parties, as the Coolum wavepool is entirely on private land development adjacent to cables. Apparent erosion would be an apple compared to these lemons ( for now ) high tide backwash spread... 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